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Who is the Saviour?

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this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

Thomas knew the Lord Jesus was God :

John 20:28-29 KJV
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Peter believed the Lord Jesus was Lord of all:

Acts 10:36 KJV
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: )

Peter preached that Jesus is God:

2 Peter 1:1 KJV
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Paul preached that the Lord Jesus was God:

1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Paul preached that The Lord Jesus is the great God:

Titus 2:13 KJV
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Paul said that The Lord Jesus is the God and Saviour of whom appeared to us:

Titus 3:4 KJV
But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

John explained that the Lord Jesus was God several times...

John 1:1 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1 John 5:20 KJV
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

So you see, there is scriptural evidence throughout the Bible to explain that the Lord Jesus is equal to the Father and is God.

There are THREE that are in Heaven... The Father, The Word and the Holy Spirit and these THREE are ONE.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

Jookbeard, okay.

As mentioned, in Isaiah the Bible says the following :

In the NWT it replaces the word Lord with Jehovah.

The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that God is one person, not three.

However as the Bible says that there is no Saviour beside God, this is further evident in the book of Hosea.

Hosea 13:4 KJV
Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

So as we are taught from the Scripture - It is God who is the Saviour, not men, not an organisation and not ourselves.

However as we note that Jesus is the Saviour of the world, there either has to be a contradiction in the word of God, because we have learned that ONLY God is the Saviour, or we can learn from the Bible that the Lord Jesus who is equal to His Father and a member of the Godhead IS the Saviour and is God.

If you go to the book of numbers, you will see that God who is the Saviour to Israel rescued them from Egypt, and delivered them. Yet, as they murmured against Him, God chastened them by sending fiery serpents. Note the verse...

Numbers 21:5-8 KJV
And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. [6] And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. [7] Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord , and against thee; pray unto the Lord , that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. [8] And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

So, it was the Lord God who Israel murmured against, it was the Lord God who sent fiery serpents and it was the Lord God who chastened Israel, as God does to all His children who are out of line (as a loving father does to his children).

However as we look at the new testament, Paul reveals which person in the Godhead sent the fiery serpents...

1 Corinthians 10:8-10 KJV
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. [9] Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. [10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

So Christ was the One who was murmured against (the pre-incarnate Lord Jesus) and it was the Pre-incarnate Lord Jesus who sent the fiery serpents. Thus showing that He is God.

Paul recognises throughout scriptures that the Lord Jesus is God, in many verses.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

Cofty, if you genuinely want to know, watch the video, and you'll receive help with the verses I provide.

My words have no power, I preach the word of God which has power (Hebrews 4:12).

Instead of asking man his views... ask God to reveal His word to you.

Seek and ye shall find.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

Atlantis, so would they say that they can save themselves? I guess if they teach that they must do works to save, then they of course teach they are their own saviour...

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

It's not a committee, it's One God IN three persons.

I can defend - it's you who gets uptight because I quote from the word of God.

Anyways, as mentioned, this is a Bible study for those who are interested. If you are so against God Cofty then why speak out against someone in whom you don't believe exists?

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

There are three in the Godhead... But of course you will know what I mean by that, because of your background.. 🙂

1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

In Isaiah God says there is no Saviour beside Him ..

Isaiah 43:11 KJV
I, even I, am the Lord ; and beside me there is no saviour.

The NWT states that Jehovah is that Saviour and Jehovah says there is no other Saviour beside Him.

So, how can the Lord Jesus be the Saviour?

When you accept that there are more than one person in the Godhead - you will appreciate that The Lord Jesus is the God of the Old and New Testament.

Jesus and the Father are not the same person, both unique, but the are the same God.

The Jehovah's Witnesses have their minds conditioned to believe that God is one person, this creates confusion towards themselves.

The Bible tells us in Numbers 21 that the Lord God who was and is the Saviour of Israel, chastened Israel because of their murmuring and tempting God.

Paul reminds us in 1 Corinthians 10 that Christ was that Saviour who chastened Israel.

1 Corinthians 10:8-10 KJV
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. [9] Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. [10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

JW Answers

This is for those who are interested in Bible study.

The Jehovah's Witnesses claim that ONLY the Father is God, and thus teach He was the Saviour in the Old Testament. The Bible teaches that God says "There is no Saviour beside me". Therefore how is it, that the Lord Jesus Christ is called the Saviour of the world?

The below video teaches this subject. The question remains.. Jehovah's Witnesses, who is YOUR Saviour?

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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?

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the jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.

however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..

JW Answers

Guys,

With due respect. You have complained and called me a coward for doing a hit n run, and not commenting on the subject to hand.

Whilst I have expressed both in video and on here in times past, that I prefer to speak on FB, because it engages in a spiritual conversation, this chat forum is the opposite.

Oh, and John Prestor... You have never once counter argued or discussed Bible with me, and I was asking you questions as well... It seems that I am not the only one who does "hit n runs" and yet, likely, he will get many likes and support, where as it's just jibes towards me... Nice!

There are no Spiritual conversations, only attack attack attack and "mythology" and "the Bible is wrong" and personal jibes...

And you wonder why I chose not to comment before?

At least I can say I have tried, and wanted to speak about this one. However it's pointless if rather than debating on the subject, you say "oh those verses are wrong" and don't provide other verses to support ones argument.

Have a good day guys, I don't want to speak to people who are constant complaining that "God isn't real", "the Bible is false", "it's all mythology"...

My question to you is... If you don't believe in God, and you believe the Bible is false ... Why do you remain in these forums??